Comments on: Migraine Study: 69% of Patients Have Co-Morbid Conditions http://curetogether.com/blog/2009/05/26/migraine-study-69-of-patients-have-co-morbid-conditions/ Open source health research at CureTogether - finding cures for everyone Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:33:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Tom Hennessy http://curetogether.com/blog/2009/05/26/migraine-study-69-of-patients-have-co-morbid-conditions/comment-page-1/#comment-394 Tom Hennessy Sat, 05 Sep 2009 01:17:11 +0000 http://curetogether.com/blog/?p=604#comment-394 If you look at that list one wonders why the disease polycythemia / increased blood cell production isn't mentioned. It presents with headache migraine in most cases. The problem being the marker for polycythemia is set too high. The 'accepted' hemoglobin for a man is 14.5 as normal but in those on dialysis they have shown DEFINITIVELY that the increased death rate begins at 13.5 a full point below what they say is "normal". http://www.biospace.com/news_story.aspx?NewsEntityId=16025 "Half were treated more aggressively to drive their hemoglobin levels to13.5 grams per deciliter, while the rest had a target hemoglobin of 11.3 grams per deciliter. Patients with the higher hemoglobin target were more likely to die, have a heart attack or stroke, or be hospitalized for congestive heart failure, researchers said." If you look at that list one wonders why the disease polycythemia / increased blood cell production isn’t mentioned.
It presents with headache migraine in most cases.
The problem being the marker for polycythemia is set too high.
The ‘accepted’ hemoglobin for a man is 14.5 as normal but in those on dialysis they have shown DEFINITIVELY that the increased death rate begins at 13.5 a full point below what they say is “normal”.

http://www.biospace.com/news_story.aspx?NewsEntityId=16025

“Half were treated more aggressively to drive their hemoglobin levels to13.5 grams per deciliter, while the rest had a target hemoglobin of 11.3 grams per deciliter.
Patients with the higher hemoglobin target were more likely to die, have a heart attack or stroke, or be hospitalized for congestive heart failure, researchers said.”

]]> By: Faren http://curetogether.com/blog/2009/05/26/migraine-study-69-of-patients-have-co-morbid-conditions/comment-page-1/#comment-290 Faren Thu, 28 May 2009 19:26:42 +0000 http://curetogether.com/blog/?p=604#comment-290 In the Co-Morbid conditions: I wish there was a way to differentiate if a condition directly/sympathetically causes one or the other versus something within the body causing both. For example, serious chronic pain can OFTEN can lead to depression (more as an effect or side effect). But the possibility for something chemical in the body causing both or even just predispositioning for it is also very real. Through breaking down individual symptoms and tracking, sometimes cause-effect relationships can be drawn through analysis. One free program called Bayesian is available here: http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jcheng/bnsoft.htm That has helped me discover some of these intricacies for further study. In the Co-Morbid conditions: I wish there was a way to differentiate if a condition directly/sympathetically causes one or the other versus something within the body causing both. For example, serious chronic pain can OFTEN can lead to depression (more as an effect or side effect). But the possibility for something chemical in the body causing both or even just predispositioning for it is also very real. Through breaking down individual symptoms and tracking, sometimes cause-effect relationships can be drawn through analysis. One free program called Bayesian is available here:
http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jcheng/bnsoft.htm That has helped me discover some of these intricacies for further study.

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